C&B Cam

[sportfan]

Can anyone say for a fact that this cam will work in and improve performance in a NA 500 ? Will it be worth it ?

[texanbrit]

Won't work on the NA, cam profile is wrong.

[sportfan]

Thanks Paul. If it would help ,I'd get one. I guess bigger brakes, an
LSD, lightened flywheel, clutch, and dyno tune will have to do.

[texanbrit]

Exhaust manifold and those new multi-air springs maybe?

You could ask C&B but I suspect a custom cam will be expensive, plus my Italian is not good and I don't really know what to ask for even in English.

[nightowlracing]

Won't work on the NA, cam profile is wrong.

Do you have a cam card for one? Never have been able to see the spec's but that wouldn't stop anyone who has access to a Cam Doctor which is a camshaft measurement machine.

[texanbrit]

Won't work on the NA, cam profile is wrong.

Do you have a cam card for one? Never have been able to see the spec's but that wouldn't stop anyone who has access to a Cam Doctor which is a camshaft measurement machine.

I don't unfortunately. If I get adventurous one day I'll look around town for a "cam doctor", although the Pop is supposed to be the reliable, unmodified one.

[Scallootch]

One might need to swap the upper part of the head (AKA the "cam box") in order to use cam sets such as CAT Cams’ 1901406 (fast road), 1901453 (race/rally), or Colombo and Bariani’s FF16.ST1 on our Pop/Sport/Lounge EAB motors. Of course you'd need a custom tune in order to make it work. For the record, CAT Cams' spec for the 1901453 notes that it's for the 176 A9.000, but I'm pretty sure it's a typo that should say 176 A8.000.

For the record, these motors all use the same gasket between the top and bottom halves of the head:

169 A3.000 1368cc from Panda 101HP, EU 500);
176 B9.000 1242cc from Punto (176), Ypsilon (840);
179 D7.000 1242cc from Palio, Siena;
182 B2.000 1242cc from Marea (185), Brava (182), Bravo I (182);
188 A5.000 1242cc from Siena (178), Palio (178BX), Ypsilon (843), Palio Weekend (178), IDEA (350);
192 B2.000 1368cc from Musa (350), Stilo Multi Wagon (192);
843 A1.000, alternative part number for 192 B2.000;
198 A1.000, 1368cc turbo from Mi.TO (955), Linea (323), Bravo II (190) T-Jet;
198 A4.000, 1368cc turbo from Doblo (263), Delta III (844), Giulietta (940), Grande Punto (199), 500L (EU), T-Jet;
198 A7.000, 1368cc from Delta III (844);
199 A6.000, 1368cc from Mi.TO (955), Punto (188);
312 A1.000, 1368cc turbo from RoW 500 (312) Abarth;
312 A3.000, 1368cc turbo from RoW 500 (312) Abarth '07-'12;
940 B7.000 from 500L (199);
955 A2.000, 1368cc MultiAir turbo from Mi.TO (955);
955 A7.000, 955 A8.000, and 199 A8.000, all alternative part numbers for 955 A2.000;
955 A6.000, 1368cc MultiAir from Punto (199), Mi.TO (955).

As far as I'm aware the EAB is basically a 169 A3.000 with MultiAir.

[texanbrit]

I wish I knew the euro platforms better, feels like some of these you have listed must by non-turbo cars.

[Scallootch]

Yup, the majority of them are nonturbo motors but I've noted some of the turbos in that list.

I just notified my Portugal contact that Zecca recently announced DI Corse's new supply of imported T-Jet (198 A1.000) heads, and my Portugal guy says he's also found a supplier in Italy for same. Now I get to figure out whether cams from nonturbo models will fit into this turbo model cam box to work on my nonturbo block...