Can't get it to start.
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Can't get it to start.
I just installed a Quaife LSD and a clutchmaster clutch got the car back together and it won't start. I've posted this on other webpages and tried everything anyone replied and still can't get it to start. I don't think it is cranking as fast as it did before and it acts like the oil pump has lost prime. I ran the code reader and got P1524 Oil pressure out of range, camshaft advance / retard disabled. Which I guess means the Multi Air brick isn't getting enough oil pressure. I welcome any help.
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Re: Can't get it to start.
What about this stuff? https://21stcenturyfiat124spider.wordpr ... m-storage/
Perhaps also clean the MA filter?
Perhaps also clean the MA filter?
2013 Abarth 500c (NGen Turbo'd) - Isabella
2012 500 Pop (broken, engine rebuild on hold) - Popabella
2014 500L (Daily workhorse) - The Hulk
2013 Abarth 500 (broken engine, current project) - Abby
2012 500 Pop (broken, engine rebuild on hold) - Popabella
2014 500L (Daily workhorse) - The Hulk
2013 Abarth 500 (broken engine, current project) - Abby
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Re: Can't get it to start.
Also it will refuse to start if things are out of balance. Mine refused to start because I mounted the under pulley incorrectly, Bob Zecca just said that he had a “crank no start” with a car where the clutch flywheel sheered loose.
2013 Abarth 500c (NGen Turbo'd) - Isabella
2012 500 Pop (broken, engine rebuild on hold) - Popabella
2014 500L (Daily workhorse) - The Hulk
2013 Abarth 500 (broken engine, current project) - Abby
2012 500 Pop (broken, engine rebuild on hold) - Popabella
2014 500L (Daily workhorse) - The Hulk
2013 Abarth 500 (broken engine, current project) - Abby
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Re: Can't get it to start.
I tried everything that people posted to try on the blue page and more. I built a tank ,filled it with oil, pressured it up to 20 psi. , and hooked it up to the oil pressure sending unit port. After a few cranks it fired right up. So the pumps aren't self priming because I never got oil up to the brick until I did this. All along I thought it was the pump wasn't pumping or the oil pressure RV was stuck open. I hope I didn't cause any extra wear on the bearings by following the " keep cranking it ,it'll fire up" advice from several people. I've had it out on a few short trips and it ran fine. I can really feel the LSD when opening up the throttle in a tight turn. Its like torque steer.
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Re: Can't get it to start.
That's great news. Interesting technique to get the oil up there! I'm a bit curious why this gave you so much trouble but at least it's resolved now.
2013 Abarth 500c (NGen Turbo'd) - Isabella
2012 500 Pop (broken, engine rebuild on hold) - Popabella
2014 500L (Daily workhorse) - The Hulk
2013 Abarth 500 (broken engine, current project) - Abby
2012 500 Pop (broken, engine rebuild on hold) - Popabella
2014 500L (Daily workhorse) - The Hulk
2013 Abarth 500 (broken engine, current project) - Abby
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Re: Can't get it to start.
I guess with the oil pan off for a few days that the oil pump lost prime. It seems the pumps are not self priming. Once I had the system pressured up and got everything back in place, it didn't take but a few cranks to get it to start up. I just hope I didn't damage the small end rod bearing any. It seems to run ok and doesn't have any strange noises. I plan on doing a write up with pictures on here and the blue page. Very few NA car detailed write ups are done so maybe it will help someone.
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Re: Can't get it to start.
Would be great to have it documented. I probably have to remove my oil pan on the Pop soon and might even replace the oil pump.sportfan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:18 am I guess with the oil pan off for a few days that the oil pump lost prime. It seems the pumps are not self priming. Once I had the system pressured up and got everything back in place, it didn't take but a few cranks to get it to start up. I just hope I didn't damage the small end rod bearing any. It seems to run ok and doesn't have any strange noises. I plan on doing a write up with pictures on here and the blue page. Very few NA car detailed write ups are done so maybe it will help someone.
I don't think the starter spins things fast enough to cause any real damage and there isn't a lot of load on the system while cranking.
2013 Abarth 500c (NGen Turbo'd) - Isabella
2012 500 Pop (broken, engine rebuild on hold) - Popabella
2014 500L (Daily workhorse) - The Hulk
2013 Abarth 500 (broken engine, current project) - Abby
2012 500 Pop (broken, engine rebuild on hold) - Popabella
2014 500L (Daily workhorse) - The Hulk
2013 Abarth 500 (broken engine, current project) - Abby