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Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 5:49 pm
by texanbrit
Just going to throw the list of parts I'm going to need to order, and I can come back and edit it as I go.
Transmission
Flywheel bolts - 6509650AA (x6)
axle nut - 6509729AA
Head
Valve cover gasket - 68145088AA
MA gasket - 4892649AB
Intake manifold seals - 4892885AA (x4)
exhaust manifold gasket - 52022336AA
head bolts - 6509633AA (x10)
camshaft seal - 4892648AC
camshaft sproket bolt - 6509635AA
Oiling
Oil Pump
(New oil pump comes with a gasket so don't need Oil pump gasket - 68145326AA)
Bottom end
Crank sprocket bolt - 6511175AA
cap bolts - 68341067AA (x8)
Rear main - 4893267AD
Maintenance
Timing belt
Timing tensioner
Water pump
Oil
Coolant
Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 6:15 pm
by texanbrit
Removed the under pulley/hamonic balancer.
- under pulley (3x13mm)
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Removed the engine mount bracket. (6x13mm bolts)
- Engine mount bracket (6x13mm)
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Removed the timing belt cover (bunch of 10mm bolts)
- Timing belt cover
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Fitted the tool to mount the crank in place.
- Crank locked in place
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Also put the cam locating plate on, just out of curiosity
, and the timing seems to be fine.
- Cam tool
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Removed the timing tensioner and the belt.
- Timing tensioner
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Belt looks a bit tired, probably okay but replacing anyway.
- Timing belt
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- Timing teeth
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Removed the accessory bracket (13 and 15mm nuts and bolts)
- Accessory bracket
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Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 1:20 pm
by texanbrit
Into the head!
Thought about cleaning up the oil cooler side, but later....
In the meantime removed the remaining bolts on the valve cover (8mm). I believe there are 294 of them, or at least no matter how many you remove there is always one more. Then revealed the RTV gasket seal and a very oil covered MA brick.
- RTV for the win!
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- GOLD!!!
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Removed the brick (9 x T45 bolts).
There are some noticeable marks on the #1 cylinder intake cam and follower. Wondering if this is the original 2015 oil in here, and getting a bit worried about what the bottom end is going to look like. Going to soldier on though, if only for science and spares.
- Cam mark
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- Follower mark
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Removed the camshaft sprocket, always good to get the chance to use the sprocket holder tool.
- 6847 sprocket tool
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Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 2:54 pm
by texanbrit
Removed the cam bearing caps (10 x 10mm) and then the cam.
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Interesting to see all the oil channels for lubrication.
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Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 7:06 pm
by texanbrit
Removed the lifters. 6 of them are squishy but perhaps they'll be okay (there are 8 more in the other head).
- Lifters
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Removed the camshaft housing and the gasket
- Cam carrier gasket
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Removed the thermostat housing from the head (2 x 10mm) bolts.
- Themostat housing
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After some debate determine that the head bolts are T50s
- Head bolt
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The head bolts need a strong tool to remove them though.
- Torqued Torx
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Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:59 pm
by texanbrit
Impact grade T50 and the head is off. Bit crusty but not too bad
Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:10 am
by texanbrit
Didn't take good notes today, things went a bit sideways.
Decided to tackle the dirty side, where the oil cooler had obviously taken a whack and made a mess.
Started by removing the hard lines.
- Hard line fastner
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I think this bolt in the middle of the block is underneath the hard line on the 2012, I'll need to check but it's above the line on the 2015 which is interesting.
- 10mm nut
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Once I removed the big bolt from the oil cooler assembly the whole thing fell off. It has cracked where the two 15mm bolts hold it in place.
- Big bolt
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- oops
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That revealed that there is more internal damage
- Damage
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- Internal damage
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Removed the oil pan (which is easier with all the bolts removed). The auto transmission of this engine has these two huge T45 bolts that hold it through the adapter plate. Seems like total overkill and creates the silly need to remove the transmission to remove the oil pan (not an issue for me though). Means I'm not going to be able to reuse this pan.
- Auto oil pan bolts
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The pan had some unpleasant sludge at the bottom, not that surprised at this point.
- Nasty sludge
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Removed the oil pickup and then decided to leave the Dexter kill room for the day.
- Oil pickup
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- Murder scene
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Hey look it says "FIAT" and "Lancia" on the bottom of the rods.
- It says FIAT
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Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:32 pm
by texanbrit
Pulled the broken oil pump
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The non-turbo pump seems to be on backorder. I don’t trust the one in the other engine since there are pressure issues.
Could probably use a turbo engine pump, but they are 3 times the price.
Anyway, moving on to the pistons and crank.
Noticed some scoring on the crank.
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Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:19 am
by texanbrit
Pulled the pistons this morning, before the excessive heat took over the garage.
10mm cap bolts. I think it’s best to loosen them all before removing any pistons. Otherwise the crank moves around too easily as you try to break them loose.
- Cap bolts
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Remove the bearing cap and attach the connecting rod guides. Be careful not to turn the crank as you’ll lose the rod and have to go fishing.
- Rod guides
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Pistons come out of the top of the engine, be careful not to drop them.
- Escaped piston
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Everything looks in good shape internally. Pistons are dirty but not damaged, piston bores are clean and all the bearings looks good.
Re: Popabella - Just can't sell it.
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:11 pm
by texanbrit
Removed the 20 13mm bolts for the crank bed plate but it didn't want to come off. Seems like the rear main is holding it in place, or perhaps just need to use bigger muscles.
Anyway the rear main isn't very accessible while the engine is on the stand.
- Rear main
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I flipped it and moved it to the bench. That's much easier with it stripped down.
- Benched
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While there I thought I'd remove the transmission flex plate. Just two T50 bolts, but one of them just melted under minimal pressure.
- Stripped torx
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Ended up drilling out the hole and using a screw removal tool (and a large adjustable wrench) to extract it.
- Victory!
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The rear main is just 6 small T30 bolts.
Don't know if that freed up the bedplate yet as the engine is the wrong way up and the heat drove me out of the garage for the day.